Peugeot 508 (Mk2)


Debut: 2018
Maker: Peugeot
Predecessor: 508 (Mk1)



 Published on 15 Jul 2018
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The Peugeot family sedan now becomes a 4-door coupe and gains stronger premium feel.


Everybody says D-segment sedans are dying in Europe, at least for mainstream brands. Yes, while family sedans are still selling well in the US and China, their sales have been dropping every year in Europe for more than a decade. 15 or 20 years ago, Ford Mondeo, Renault Laguna, Peugeot 406, Citroen C5, Opel Vectra, Nissan Primara and Honda Accord were still selling well. Today, only the brands with semi-premium status and global presence can still sell in meaningful numbers – yes, we are talking about Volkswagen Passat. Even Ford has decided to pull the plug of Mondeo once this generation phased out. Why does the segment keep shrinking? Two causes: premium brands and SUV. Premium brands like the German Big Three, Jaguar, Volvo and Lexus have increasingly wider exposure to the segment, not necessarily using mid-size sedans but also compact premium hatchbacks to steal the sales of traditional large family cars. Meanwhile, the fever of SUV crossovers never stops, catching the buyers concerning more about practicality. Lacking both the practicality and desirability of their rivals, family sedans seem to face a dim future.

However, not everybody is going to surrender as soon as Ford. Peugeot has just given its 508 another chance. Instead of keeping the old formula, Peugeot decided to try something new. Firstly, it converts the car into a hatchback to improve practicality. Secondly, it designs, builds and equips the car like a premium product, so to improve its desirability. Thirdly and the most importantly, it is reshaped to be a “4-door coupe”, so that it is now a rival of Audi A5 Sportback, BMW 4-Series Gran Coupe, Mercedes CLA or Volkswagen Arteon. Can the French car really fight with these premium cars? Let’s dig deeper to see.



Fastback roof line and frameless windows make it look like a 4-door coupe.


The second generation 508 – I think it should have been given a new name because of its vastly different shape and market positioning – looks the best from the rear, as it has a fastback roof line like a true coupe. The proportion is very coupe, too. This car is 80mm shorter than the old car, 12mm wider and, most importantly, 56mm lower. Moreover, to lighten its visual mass Peugeot equips it with frameless side windows, just like its rivalling premium 4-door coupes.

Moving over to the front, you might find the bonnet still looks a bit too high and the nose not slim enough. Perhaps Peugeot should try harder to lower the mounting of its engine, like what Toyota has achieved with its new Camry. That said, the new 508 still looks premium enough, thanks to remarkable design details, most notably the cool-looking front grille and clean bumper design. Meanwhile, it refuses to use aggressive lines or heavily twisted surfaces to catch eyes, keeping the cultured and restrained manner of 308. Over time, this will prove to be a wise decision, benefiting the premium image it wants to build.



In top spec. trim it feels even more expensive and tasteful than BMW.


Peugeot is not the only one opting for the change to coupe shape. Opel did the same with its Insignia Grand Sport, but its attempt is largely ruined by lacking elegant design details and adequate build quality to match. Peugeot is far more successful in execution. Not only the exterior design is neat and the panel gaps are narrow, the interior feels premium as well. In fact, in top spec. trim I would say it feels even more expensive and tasteful than BMW. There are aluminum piano keys on the center console for shortcut functions. The instrument is a 12.3-inch TFT display which can be used to show 3D map or infrared night vision image, very classy. Alloy pedals, stitched leather, wood or carbon-fiber lookalike trims are available. Moreover, the interior design is truly special. It again employs the brand’s trademark architecture of placing the instrument pod above the very small steering wheel. LED ambient lighting enhances the upmarket feel further. The driver seat is low and supportive, an essential requirement for a car with sporty flavours. Although the car’s wheelbase is reduced to 2793mm, shorter than the class norm, the front-wheel-drive layout means it can still offer good legroom to both rows. In fact, its rear legroom is 30mm longer than Audi A5 Sportback. Elbow room is 50mm wider as well. The only compromise, as you would have already guessed, is rear headroom. It is fine for anyone not much taller than 6 feet, but the swoopy roof line may make you feel claustrophobic. Further back, the luggage compartment measures 487 liters, 14 liters more than before despite the car’s shorter overall length. The load bay is wide and flat, and the hatchback tailgate makes loading big items easier. This car sacrifices little practicality for style.



On the road, the chassis is surprisingly good for a front-driver.


The new 508 is built on the modular EMP2 platform like 308, 3008, 5008, Citroen C4 Picasso and DS7 Crossback., but it uses classier multi-link rear axle in combination with adaptive dampers and camera-based active road scanning. The new platform means an average of 70kg kerb weight reduction compared with the old 508. Thanks partly to the use of structural adhesives, chassis rigidity is much increased. Meanwhile, the car has a remarkable drag cofficient of 0.26 and a smaller frontal area, so everything is better.

On the road, the chassis is surprisingly good for a front-driver. It feels solid, quiet and refined. The suspension is firm rather than French-luxury soft, but it damps very well on most roads. High-speed cruising refinement is particularly impressive. Only larger bumps in town would transfer a thud into the cabin. Unlike German cars, its steering is light, but it weighs consistently across the range. The combination of light steering and a small steering wheel results in a surprisingly agile feeling. Body control is good, with very little body roll. Front to rear balance is also good. It is certainly a sportier car than your Passat, Insignia or Superb, if not Mondeo. In its class, its chassis dynamics are slightly above A5 Sportback and VW Arteon. The rear-drive BMW and Kia Stinger are better to steer, of course, but the French car feels different.


1.6 petrol turbo is a small engine stretched too far...


Nevertheless, engine remains a weak link. Peugeot forecasts more than 70 percent sales will go to the trio of diesel engines, i.e. 130hp 1.5HDi, 160hp 2.0HDi and 180hp 2.0HDi, while the minority will go to the petrol 1.6-liter turbo in either 180hp or 225hp form. Confusingly, these BMW-originated engines were previously called THP but now have been rebranded to PureTech. Later on, the 180hp 1.6 petrol will be paired with a 80kW front-axle electric motor in a plug-in hybrid model. All engines are mated with a new 8-speed automatic gearbox, licensed by Aisin for production in France.

While the top diesel is punchy yet refined, it adds 115kg over the top petrol, compromising performance and handling a bit. The 225hp 1.6 turbo petrol might sound powerful, but it is a small engine stretched too far. Low-down response and power are rather limited, certainly not helped by the car’s 200-plus kilograms of extra weight over a 308GTi. This means the 8-speed automatic needs to hunt for gears, which hurts the sense of refinement. PSA group desperately needs to develop a new petrol four-cylinder engine if it wants to keep its large cars.

The lack of an adequate engine aside, the new 508 is a very special car worth consideration. It has an easygoing character. It handles and rides good. Its interior feels special and upmarket. Style is also a strong reason to consider. We just hope the French will continue to deviate from the market norm.
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 Published on 9 Sep 2021
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508 PSE


Peugeot mates its small engine with electric motors to create a surprising performance sedan.


In a segment dominated by German sports sedans like BMW M340i, Audi S4 and more recently challenged by rising stars like Kia Stinger GT and Genesis G70, how can Peugeot attract the attention of buyers? You know, the European operation of Stellantis (or ex-PSA) has been relying on engines with no more than 4 cylinders and 1.6 liters of displacement for many years. The last Peugeot employing a six-cylinder motor was the 407, which was more than 10 years ago. However, the era of electrification opens a new opportunity for Peugeot. While its rivals are having headache how to balance between performance and emission, Peugeot finds its BMW-developed 1.6-liter turbo engine a perfect match with electric motors. The latter fills the power gap from its conventional rivals when acceleration is called for. Meanwhile, the plug-in hybrid system can lower its emission level to figures qualified for green car tax cut, not to mention lowering fleet average, at least that’s how the test cycles measure. Suddenly, a Peugeot sports sedan based on the tastefully-styled 508 becomes a tempting yet unique option to buyers.

However, it demands more than a plug-in hybrid system to succeed. Peugeot created the PSE (Peugeot Sport Engineered) label for its upcoming electrified performance cars. It directed some of its motorsport engineers to develop the hybrid system as well as re-engineering the rest of the car, making sure the ride and handling are also up to the job. From how the 508 PSE performs and drives, we must say it is a surprising success.



The SW wagon is no less stylish than the liftback sedan


The 508 PSE is developed further from the existing 508 Hybrid. It has the 1.6-liter turbo tuned from an economy-oriented 180hp to 200hp, although the same engine could muster 270hp in the 2013 RCZ R coupe. The Hybrid’s 110hp disc-shape motor, sandwiched between the engine and gearbox, is retained. At the rear axle, the PSE adds another 113hp motor to drive the rear wheels directly. Since the battery is not powerful enough to supply both motors at maximum output, the combined output of the 3 power sources is limited to 360hp, accompanied with a useful 384 lbft of torque. Brilliantly, PSE engineers found enough space under the rear seat to accommodate the 11.4kWh battery, without robbing any seating or luggage space. It offers a zero-emission range of 26 miles and lowers emission figure to merely 46 g/km.

On the downside, the 508 PSE is inevitably heavier than its conventional rivals. At 1850kg, it exceeds a similarly powerful M340i xDrive by 180kg, and even more versus an Audi S4 Quattro. This explains why it takes 5 seconds to sprint from 0-60 mph, while the BMW and Audi take 4.2 and 4.5 seconds, respectively. Fortunately, the Peugeot is still capable to run to the 155 mph norm of German machines.

On the road, the 508 PSE feels just like that. While the electric motors fill the torque gap of the weak engine and improve throttle response significantly, the car feels brisk rather than quick when you plant the throttle. The integration of the two power sources is generally good, but at low speeds the Aisin 8-speed automatic sometimes hesitate to decide which gear or which power source to engage, resulting in some jerky delivery. At the other extreme, pushing the powertrain hard and you will hear the gruffy noise of the 1.6 engine. That said, in normal driving or even high-speed cruising the powertrain works very well and feels refined, rarely revealing its less classy components.


Fluid dynamics and sophisticated ride are its biggest assets.


Better is the chassis. With so much weight to carry, you might doubt its handling and ride. Fortunately, Peugeot reworked the chassis extensively and brilliantly. The front and rear tracks have been widened by 24mm and 12mm, respectively, accompanied with more negative camber, stiffer springs, bushings, anti-roll bars and adaptive shocks. The 20-inch alloy wheels it uses not only fill the wheel arches fully but also enable larger Alcon brakes, with 380mm discs clamped by 4-pot calipers up front. The tires are widened to 245mm and upgraded to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. The steering software is also remapped.

Apart from some brittleness at very low speeds, the 508 PSE rides perfectly. It smooths out bumps and surface imperfections, filtering out harshness and leave only the information you need. There is a sense of French luxury cars in its supple and relaxing manner, but simultaneously its body roll is tightly controlled, displaying a composure in corner rare to French cars. Such a sophistication exceeds even the M340i, which feels sportier but also stiffer and harsher. The Michelin 4S tires offer plenty of grip. The brakes withstand the abuse of its considerable weight. The steering is quick and linear, if a little numb. Best of all, the 508 PSE balances like a grown-up hot hatch. Lift off throttle mid-corner, it will tighten its line. Keep feeding power, the rear motor will trim understeer. The result is an agility and playfulness you won’t expect for a car so heavy. It might not be an ultimate sports sedan, but Peugeot’s engineers managed to build an all-round chassis that you could enjoy in everyday driving as well as some exciting moments.

In addition to the 508’s tasteful design, premium interior (although the i-Cockpit is still an ergonomic flaw), usable space and the availability of SW wagon body (which might be more popular than the liftback sedan, as it sacrifices no style), the PSE is highly desirable. The only trouble is its £55,000 price, even higher than its German rivals. At this level, the performance and powertrain refinement it offers might not be enough.
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Specifications





Year
Layout
Chassis
Body
Length / width / height
Wheelbase
Engine
Capacity
Valve gears
Induction
Other engine features
Max power
Max torque
Transmission
Suspension layout
Suspension features
Tires
Kerb weight
Top speed
0-60 mph (sec)
0-100 mph (sec)
508 1.6THP
2018
Front-engined, FWD
Steel monocoque
Mainly steel
4750 / 1859 / 1403 mm
2793 mm
Inline-4
1598 cc
DOHC 16 valves, DVVT, VVL
Turbo
DI
225 hp
221 lbft
8-speed automatic
F: strut / R: multi-link
Adaptive damping
235/40YR19
1420 kg
155 mph (c)
6.9 (c)
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508 2.0HDi
2018
Front-engined, FWD
Steel monocoque
Mainly steel
4750 / 1859 / 1403 mm
2793 mm
Inline-4, diesel
1997 cc
DOHC 16 valves
VTG turbo
CDI
177 hp
295 lbft
8-speed automatic
F: strut / R: multi-link
Adaptive damping
235/45YR18
1535 kg
146 mph (c)
7.8 (c)
-
508 Hybrid
2019
Front-engined, FWD
Steel monocoque
Mainly steel
4750 / 1859 / 1403 mm
2793 mm
Inline-4 + electric motor
1598 cc
DOHC 16 valves, DVVT, VVL
Turbo
DI
180 + 109 = 225 hp
221 + 236 = 265 lbft
8-speed automatic
F: strut / R: multi-link
Adaptive damping
235/40YR19
1720 kg
149 mph (c)
7.6 (c)
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Year
Layout
Chassis
Body
Length / width / height
Wheelbase
Engine
Capacity
Valve gears
Induction
Other engine features
Max power
Max torque
Transmission
Suspension layout
Suspension features
Tires
Kerb weight
Top speed
0-60 mph (sec)
0-100 mph (sec)
508 PSE
2021
Front-engined, e-4WD
Steel monocoque
Mainly steel
4750 / 1859 / 1403 mm
2793 mm
Inline-4 + electric motor x 2
1598 cc
DOHC 16 valves, DVVT, VVL
Turbo
DI
200 + 110 + 113 = 360 hp
221 + 236 + 122 = 384 lbft
8-speed automatic
F: strut / R: multi-link
Adaptive damping
245/35YR20
1850 kg
155 mph (limited)
5.0 (c)
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